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Artisan Beer

A weekly podcast

Artisan Beer

A weekly conversation over a beer about building software.

A casual conversation over a drink between Ed Grosvenor, Peter van Dijck and other people doing interesting work in and around the Laravel community: what they are building, where the industry is heading, and plenty of AI along the way.

Episodes

Episode 1 60 min

SaaS is dying on its own

Ed and Peter finally record the conversation they have every week anyway. Ed lays out Scalpels — a fleet of small, open-source, agent-first apps you deploy to your own Laravel Cloud account — and Hone, the Nightwatch alternative that sends your telemetry to your own endpoint and hands the findings to an agent instead of a dashboard. Peter explains Sputnik Intelligence, why he put a Rust search engine on Laravel Cloud, and why he thinks data may still be a good business even if code is not. Along the way: scale-to-zero and the database session driver that quietly keeps your database awake, Campfire on Laravel Cloud's new Ruby runtime, the Scalpels Lab, Figma restricting which agent harnesses may use its MCP, whether AI is any use outside of work, and talking to your agents out loud.

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About the show

Ed Grosvenor

Runs Artisan Build and is building Scalpels, a fleet of small open-source apps that replace the SaaS tools you are tired of paying for.

Peter van Dijck

Is building Sputnik Intelligence, full transcripts and data on influential podcasts and newsletters, delivered by API, MCP or user interface.